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actual open and shut slam dunk case in which partisan of the right attempted to kill one of the left. the right would blame the victim. blame him or her for not having brought enough security or for not having brought a gun. good night and good luck. good evening and thanks for joining us this fine monday night. today at arizona state university school of social work a public memorial service was held for gabrielle zimmerman a 30-year-old congressional staffer in the office of gabrielle giffords. mr. zimmerman was one of six people killed in the mass shooting in tucson last weekend. today on the ninth day since the shooting congresswoman giffords
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physicians said they would no longer give daily briefings on her health status saying that the congresswoman's recovery and progress after being shot in the head continues to be remarkable. so much so that they said their next briefing will likely be to announce that the kwcongresswom is leaving the hospital to go a rehabilitation center and could happen within a few days. >> could it be a matter of days to weeks. again, it's a matter of getting all that information from our own therapist when is they think she's ready to move forward with that. >> since the shooting we learned more about the moments and the pre-shooting behavior of the alleged killer in this case 22-year-old jared loughner. it's now reported mr. loughner had bought and loaded into magazines 90 round of ammunition prior to the shooting. he fired 31 of those bullets into 19 separate people last saturday morning in tucson. he stopped, he was stopped by
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heroic by standers who tackled him only when he emptied his 30 round extended magazine and it had to stop to reload. at least some of his ammunition was purchased at a super walmart store before 7:30 a.m. last saturday morning. the shooting started that morning just past 10:00 a.m. after the columbine high school mass shooting, it was found ammunition was purchased at a walmart. michael moore was working on his film "bowling for columbine." he tried to get some of the ammunition returned. it was remarkable. watch this. >> i was shot with a tech 9. >> 9 millimeter? >> yeah. yeah. i guess it was supposed to be
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semiautomatic but it seem like fully semi-automatic. >> this vird and mark taylor. both of these boys were shot the day of the columbine massacre. richard is paralyzed for life. mark is barely standing after numerous operations. >> the kids at columbine had to pay a penalty. we paid a penalty that day for this nation. >> mark and richard were disabled and suffering from the 17 cent k-mart bullets. as they showed me the various entry points of the bullets i thought of one way we can reduce the number of bullets and guns laying around. i asked the boys if they would like to go k-mart to return the merchandise. >> ready? >> you go. >> i'm the director of human relations for k-mart. >> good. >> how can i help you. >> this is richard and this is
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mark taylor. >> mark? >> they are students from columbine high school. they were shot at columbine in the massacre. >> since they stopped selling hand guns and make sense to stop selling the bullets. >> there are places you can get rid of the 9 millimeter bullets. >> you are probably aware of k-mart. we carry sporting firearms and the accessories that go with hunting. we'll certainly take your message to our chairman and ceo who is not here today. >> he's not here today. >> he's not here this whole week. >> not at all during the week? do you have a limit on the number of bullet, ammunition that people can purchase? >> i can't answer these
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questions four. i'm not the merchandiser who places those products but i can get answers to those questions for you if you would like to leave your card in a can get those answers. >> we don't leave a card. the reason why we can't take a card and come back because mark has got a k-mart bullet an inch away from your aorta. >> in between my aorta and spine. >> i told him that somebody here would take the request seriously. not just a pr person, somebody who has some authority and can answer some of the questions that they want answered. >> k-mart does care about this. i can't go any further right now. >> i'm the vice president for k-mart. i'll deliver a statement. what happened in columbine, colorado was truly tragic and touched every american. we're sorry for the disadvantage
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to this young man. k-mart is phasing out the sale of handgun ammunition. the business plan calls for this to be complete in the continental u.s. within the next 90 days. k-mart representatives met with mr. moore and students from columbine, colorado yesterday and listened to their concerns about the product carried in k-mart stores. the company committed at the end of that meeting that k-mart would have an answer for them within a week's time. >> as you saw there in 2001 k-mart phased out selling handgun ammunition in its stores in the united states. this was not a lifetime ago this was not an era of magically kinder gentler politics this was george bush's first term. this didn't happen in the immediate aftermath of the columbine shooting. it happened two years after the massacre. if you google k-mart a my news there was some gnashing of
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teeth. but there wasn't that much of it. like all of the news coverage about k-mart making that change, all evidence of the gun lobby complaining about k-mart's decision is dated 2001. then it's over. yes there was a tiny thing about it and then it went away. 17. cent handgun bullets don't come from k-mart any more. in the wake of the tucson shooting we keep getting told any change in policy, that there can be no change in anything that affects access to guns or ammunition in our country in any way. any change in policy is off the table. it's political lidge possible. we're helpless to make any changes. why on earth would that be true now if that was not the case in 2001? joining us now is filmmaker michael moore long time denison of the k-mart office building in troy, new york. >> troy, michigan. yes. thank you for having me. >> "bowling for columbine" is a
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big deal. it's not remembered either by the right or the left by it's proponents or detractors for the k-mart ammunition handgun decision that you depicted. that's not a long standing source of controversy. it just happened. do you look back on that proudly? >> yes. as you can see in the footage i was stunned when they came out the next day, day after i was there, and made that announcement. all it took was these two kids going there and making that request. you're right. it's not what's remembered from the film. actually what most people f-you go on youtube what's remembered there's a cartoon that i wrote and put in the film about the history of the united states when it comes to guns and why we have guns and our history of violence and fear. but, no, the 17 cent, i was thinking of this last week when the tragedy happened in tucson.
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and i've been -- i was hoping some journalist would pose the question to someone in power and just say, what's the price, what's the cost of a life of a federal judge? 17 cents. that's all it takes. if you have 17 cents in the united states of america you can take the life of a federal judge and a 9-year-old child and just about anybody else. >> do you believe the common wisdom is true that no matter the shock, no matter the incident, it doesn't matter what happened in tucson or how long that feeling lasts that we're really not capable of making new policy about guns, politically we can't do it? >> no. only the pun departments say that. if you talk to people. i was talking to one of your producers who was out there in tucson last week. even said everybody including
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people who own guns were saying that we need to tighten this thing up. they do it in other country. they do it in canada. they have strict gun laws in canada. of course they don't have even a tenth of the murders that we have and yet they have a lot of guns in canada. there's something like over 7 million guns, firearms in people's homes in canada. 7 million. there's about 10 to 11 million homes. that's a lot of guns. they only kill a couple hundred people a year in canada, gun murders. 36 million people. that's a lot of people. 200 murders. why is that? what do they do up there? here's what they do. very simple. to own a gun i want has to be licensed and registered. you have to go through a safety course. after you've gone through the safety course, you then have to go through a 28-day waiting period. during that 28-day waiting period, you have to have -- you have to bring -- if you are
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married or have been married you have to bring in a permission slip signed by your spouse or your ex-spouse saying that it's okay for him to have a gun. just a few simple rules like that, and plus the magazines that you can't put, you know, you can't have 30 bullets. that gun in tucson is illegal in canada. >> end in a country where there are a ton of guns. >> a ton of guns and where the number one sport is hunting. there's more hunters in canada than hockey players. they don't kill each other. which gets to my larger point that i really feel needs be addressed in the national discussion that's taking place right now why us? why us? why do we more than any other country do this. i think it's more than just the laws. there's a reason why we want to own these guns. you pointed out last week that we're number one in gun ownership and then yemen is a
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distant number two. so why us? why do we have this? the majority of these guns, the vast majority of these guns are owned by people who live in safe parts of town or mostly in suburbs and rural areas. places where there are very few murders. your producer was saying to me back stage here he was talking to people there, he said everybody is packing. surgeons at the hospital they say they have guns. everybody has a gun. yet they all said we have a very low gun murder rate here in tucson. why do you have a gun then? why do you have a gun? what are you afraid of? what is that thing that we're afraid of that we want a gun in the house? there's only like 500 or 600 home invasion murders a year in this country. i don't want to say only. but in a nation of 310 million people, 500 people are killed through home invasion. of that 500, i don't have an exact number, a third of those the people that are killed are killed with a gun that the
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criminal found in the house. or they have taken it away from the homeowner and killed the homeowner with it. >> when we imagine home invasions in the movies and our head, we're never being disarmed of our own weapon and being affected with it. >> yes. i'm loathed to bring up what is in our head because we don't like to talk about it so much but on this particular day on martin luther king, jr. day this needs to be said. that imaginary person that will break into your home and kill you, who does that person look like? it's not freckle face jimmy. we don't want to talk about the racial or class part of this in terms of how it's the poor or it's pecople of color. why are we afraid? it's a fear that's existed for a very long time.
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i love this quote by martin luther king. why do we need to enact a federal anti-lynching law. you can't force information love each other. a law isn't going to not make someone not a racist. he said that's true. you can't legalize us getting along with each other. if we pass an anti-lynching law it probably is going to help. and it did. and we need these laws but we also need to address the larger issue why are we such a violent person not personal domestic violence but a nation that invades other countries that have such a huge weapons budget that just seems so intent on violence being the answer. and i think that's the thing. we're afraid of really talking about it. if we can focus on something else we'll be okay. >> we focus on it from tragedy to tragedy. the question is can we stay focused on it enough to do something about it. michael moore, i'm very lucky to have this much of your time.
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thank you for coming in here. >> thank you for everything you do and the warm and fuzzy nature of everything that you create on this show and on this network. >> you're the only person who thinks of me as warm and fuzzy. for that i'm grateful. the thing about baby steps, you know steps taken by a baby is that they are still steps and sometimes they even go forward. far be it for me to be optimistic about anything ever. the feeling that politics might be changing for the less horrible in our country after the shock in tucson, that feeling is not only fading, it is gaining strength. i know. i'm trying to maintain my usual dark cloud viewpoint in the midst of this silver lining but it's getting hard ir. for some perspective on this megan mccain will join us next. . vicks nyquil cold & flu. the nighttime sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, fever, best sleep you ever got with a cold...medicine. ♪
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a hole in what we need to do. i'm willing to work with senator schumer or anybody else who wants to make sure that people who are mentally ill cannot get and use a gun. >> senator tom coburn of oklahoma, one of the most conservative republicans in the united states senate indicating a willingness he says to work with democratic senator charles schumer or anybody he says on at least that one aspect of gun control. now, it's also true that tom coburn was asked if he would consider reinstating the ban on high capacity magazines. but he did suggest some grounds on which to move forward on a gun control issue. this is new. that's taking place in the senate. over in the house republican congressman tim murphy and democratic congresswoman napolitano of california who found the congressional health
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mental caucus want to lead a bipartisan effort on their side of the capitol to look at some of the same issues. i realize it's early yet but nobody thought this whole constructive spirit of working together thing was going last this long after this tragedy so it is worth noting that it is still happening. here's another instance. a small step, a symbolic step but a step nonetheless and one that deserves some attention. here's how the newly empowered republican leadership in the house had been talking about their goal of repealing health reform. >> we're taking these first steps to repeel the job killing health care law. the job killing health care law. the job killing health care law. this is a job killing bill. job killing health care law. repeal this job killing bill. >> do i not think that john boehner watches this show. we did actually note on this show on friday night it might be a nice thing if they dropped the whole killing thing out of the health reform repeal effort for
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this week. they appear at least in part to be doing that. >> in the last few days speaker john boehner has tempered his language calling the health care law job crushing and job destroying instead. >> granted crushing and destroying versus killing -- it's a small step but it is a step. of course the actual title of the health reform bill does still that have phrase job killing in it. that bill is expected to be debated on wednesday. but if you take a look at the bigger picture here, the vitriol to have them call it job killing has eases. nobody should base a political analysis on one poll but this ap poll does show something interesting in the politics here. the ap says its poll shows the nation is still divided about
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health reform but the intensity of the opposition appears diminished. one in four respondents say they want to do away with the law completely. even among republicans support is dropping. less than half of republicans now say to repeal health reform compared to 61% just few weeks ago. now granted this is just a snapshot of a few different things going on in american politics right now but things do feel different. policy ultimately matters more than politic, gestures i think matter less than votes do. as we get further away from the events that shocked the country in tucson, symbolic gestures of, i guess, fellowship among people in public service seem to be gaining more momentum not losing momentum. >> my colleague senator mark udall called for democrats and republicans to sit together at the state of the union.
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i called up tom after he did that and he graciously agreed we're going to sit together wednesday night at the state of the union and we hope that many others will follow us. >> now having different members of the congress sit together rather than divided along partisan lines that's not the sort of thing that alone heals the nation but it is a sign that something has happened in the nation. and that idea is becoming more popular not less with each passing day and that want seems important. at last count 22 senators have signed on the a letter saying they support this effort. they plan to break the partisan line at the president's state of the union address. today the boston herald reports republican senator scott brown of massachusetts is signing on as well at a martin luther king, jr. breakfast in boston senator brown said quote i'll sit wherever they put me. i don't care. people need to forget about the little itty bitty letter behind my name.
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the man whose election was cheered as a more partisan victory than any other election victory now says he doesn't want to you think of him as a republican. think about him as an itty bitty senator from massachusetts. tomorrow the house is back in session. on wednesday republicans will try to repeal health reform and as far as we know killing is still going to be in the title of that bill. the cynicism that has been widely expressed in the tone of politics is a cynicism that frankly is hard earned and well earned. change is possible and i swear i'm seeing some signs. joining us now is megan mccain and author of "dirty sexy polit politics." you are an arizona native born
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and raiseed. do you think what happened in tucson changed the country? do you think that politicians will not only talk about point differently but also talk to each other differently in any sort of sustainable way? >> i certainly hope so. i mean i think what we're seeing now is a cultural shift. a lot of things we've been saying about the rhetoric in politics has come to a fever pitch. even though it's a horrible tragedy it's healthy this discussion is taking place right now. >> saw after president obama's speech at the public memorial in tucson, you were public in your praise of president obama's speech. is it as somebody who is one of the most outspoken, most recognizable young republicans in the country is it okay among republicans for you to have done that in that moment? >> you know, i did praise president obama's speech. i thought it was very
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presidential. although i obviously disagree with him politically very inspiring. no one makes a speech like president obama we know this. you have to give him credit where credit is due. my father wrote an op ed in the "the washington post" saying the same thing. the sad thing that happens there was a lot of push back online calling me a republican in name only and she supports obama and this is what's dangerous going on in politics you can't support another side without being unfaithful to your own party. >> do you see that changing? we talked about that before about that prospect that it wonder if this tragedy in tucson and the dialogue that it has inspired might weaken that at least or make the people who engaging that demonization at least feel stupid about. >> it's >> you know, i get up every morning and i believe in idealism in politics and i believe in coming together and i wouldn't be able to do what i do every single day if at the very
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core of this believed in this. i fwru up in politics. i've seen the worst and what it does to people. i still wake up every day thinking politics can be a more inclusive place. what i dedicate my entire life to. if i didn't believe that i couldn't sit here right now. >> crossing from that sentiment about politics into the thing about how that might work out in policy, gun control is getting a national discussion again in the wake of the shooting. you're a strong second amendment supporter. you're a member of the nra. >> i am. >> my first date with susan was at a lady's day on the range with the nra. that's as close ace got. there's that tiny bit of common ground. >> can you come with me to the next nra convention. i'll take you with me. >> yes, i accept. absolutely. >> we'll go together. >> if we can have that common ground on that issue about which
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i bet we have all sorts of different opinions do you think there's common ground for republicans and democrats to talk about at least around tellings of gun control, talk about extend magazine, talk about tightening up the records around mental illness and background checks? >> of course when it comes to extended magazines i'm an nra member but i don't think that anyone really needs to be walking around with a semi assault rifle on the street which in my state is legal. we need to re-analyze the gun laws in this country. somehow this lunatic slipped through the cracks and was able to get a hold of this gun and shot a 9-year-old girl point blank in the face. i'm a strong second amendment supporter but there's room for analyzing gun laws in this country. >> what you just said is spectacularly uncontroversial every where except among the people who usually debate gun laws. that's why the common wisdom on
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that is wrong. there's this movement for democrats and republicans to sit together at the state of the union to get rid of that, the -- convention by which they divide themselves by the aisle of the house of representatives. do you think that is a meaningful gesture or do you think that's nice but meaningless? >> no. i think it's a meaningful gesture. where it goes from there i'm curious as you are to see where all of this uppontificating goe. will this snap i hope so. we'll see. >> megan mccain columnist for "the dirty beast." she will take me to the next nra convention. >> i'm bringing you. >> next time i see you in person we'll shake hands interest. as you're probably aware today marks the 25th consecutive year we as a country have celebrated the life and legacy of dr. martin luther king, jr. with a
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federal holiday. for 25 januarys in a row now mlk day has been recognized as a federal holiday. that means two things. first a whole generation of americans cannot remember a time when there was not a federal holiday honoring martin luther king, jr.. secondly the struggle that occurred to get this country to get this federal holiday for dr. king in the first place has started to be forgotten. consider that history recovered from the memory hole tonight. please stay with us. when you're responsible for this much of the team, you need a car you can count on. ♪
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we introduced on this show a stupidity test about two weeks ago. we issued an open invitation for members of congress to take part in this test. the test involves what is sort of the military's version of the printer scanner fax copier all in one. an office machine that does everything but does nothing well. it's a tank boat called the expeditionary fighting vehicle. it's supposed to be a tank that swims. but in order to swim it doesn't function very well as a tank. doesn't do a good job protecting folks on the inside from anything exploding on the outside. instead of spending $13 billion more on this no good very bad tank boat on top of the $3 billion that the military has spent on it already, the pentagon now wants to get rid ivt. they want to scrap the whole thing. enter the rachel maddow
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the top lawyer at the pentagon last week hit a nerve that nobody really knew was as raw as it was until he hit it when he said this. >> i believe that if dr. king were alive today he would recognize that we live in a complicated world. and that our nation's military should not and cannot lay down its arms and leave the american people vulnerable to terrorist attack. >> a lot of people particularly people on the left have interpreted that comment from jay johnson as the pentagon trying to get an endorsements from dr. martin luther king, jr. for america's currents warriors in iraq and afghanistan. i personally do not think that jay johnson was saying that. but the fact that his comment was greeted that way shows you how the legacy of dr. martin luther king, jr. is in some ways
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unresolved. the legacy of dr. martin luther king, jr. as a giant for civil rights but one against poverty and for peace these are still contested ground in which americans are really emotionally invested. given all that consider also that when we had the first federal holiday marking martin luther king, jr.'s birthday 25 years ago that was the 25 year anniversary of the most famous speech about war and peace in america in the last 100 years. today the martin luther king, jr. holiday is 25 years old. today dwight eisenhower's fare well address to the nation the famous military industrial complex that speech today is 50 years old. >> until the latest of our world conflicts, the united states had no armament industry. american makers of plow shares could with time and as required make swords as well. but we can no longer risk
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emergency of national defense. we have been compelled to create a permanent armament industry of vast proportions. add ed to this, 3.5 million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. we annually spend on military security alone more than the net income of all united states corporations. we recognize the imperative need for this development. yet we must not fail comprehend its grave implications. our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved. so is the structure of our society. in the councils of government we must guard against the acquisition of una warranted influence whether sought or unsought by the military industrial complex. the potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists
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and will persist. we must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic process. >> here's what's astonishing about that speech. there's dwight eisenhower, right. supreme commander of allied fors in world war ii. many think of him as man in a uniform than in a business suit. he took a nation from 1,000 nuclear bombs to 18,000 nuclear bombs when he left as president. here he was talking about defense spending becoming its own engine. here's dwight eisenhower, general eisenhower warning us that defense is taking over the lion's share of every american budget leaving every other priority in this country, everything else we want to do in this country fighting over the scraps after defense gets what it wants. ike said that in 1961. one of the great unanswered questions of 2011 is whether or
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not the new supposed anti-spending zealotry will mean defense will be cut or does defense get to keep growing indefinitely because we're all still living in the world ike described 50 years ago. nbc's national investigative correspondent has been looking into the new congress and its approach to historically untouchable spending. mike thank you for joining us. what have you been finding? >> what i've been finding is that the military industrial complex that dwight eisenhower warned about is as awesome and powerful as ever and we've seen some dramatic examples in just the last two weeks. secretary gates announced that he wanted to cut some $78 billion from the pentagon budget, unnecessary, unneeded programs and you would think in this current environment in which cutting discretionary spending has been identified across the board as the absolute
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number one priority in washington, he would get a receptive hearing. in fact, what he got was a ferocious push back from members of congress who have gotten generous campaign checks from defense contractors who would be identified for cutting and/or who have defense plants in their district which would lose jobs. it's the military industrial complex in full play. two examples that really left out. one that expeditionary fighting vehicle for the marines that you mentioned and we'll get to that in a moment. another one that's pretty interesting is the alternate engine for the joint strike fighter brought to you by general electric which, of course, owns this network for at least currently, and rolls royce. in both cases, and certainly in the joint strike fighter case, both the bush administration and the obama administration
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targeted this for elimination saying we don't need two engines for the same airplane, it creates all sorts of logistical problems, it's a waste of money and in fact congress consistently has pushed back, both because of large campaign checks and also a ferocious and awesome lobbying campaign by general electric and rolls royce. in fact, one kind of an example that i thought was kind of fun is right now everybody in washington reads that politico mike allen's playbook every morning. well all last week the week after gates made his announcement, you would have gotten that playbook sponsored by ge and rolls royce plugging the alternate engine for the joint strike fighter. who is for the joint strike fight center well let's start with the speaker of the house, john boehner. even said in an interview with
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brian williams two weeks ago cutting defense spending would be on table. but he's a big supporter of the alternate engine. why? the plant where it's made right outside of his district in ohio. eric cantor. even has a rolls royce. mike pence the deficit hawk got a rolls royce plant in his district in indiana. now want to be bipartisan about this, among those who are trumpeting pushing hard, writing the white house letters on this, democratic senator sherrod brown trying to protect those jobs in ohio, it's the military industrial complex at work. >> mike you mentioned the expeditionary fighting vehicle. we high liked that as a stupidity test for congress who will fight to safe this expensive over budget thing that doesn't really work that the military doesn't want.
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do we have results yet on that stupidity test? >> yes, we do and i'm afraid some of the very same characters, sherrod brown democratic senator from ohio. why? lima, ohio has one of the plants where thats being made. who else? the chairman of the house armed services committee, howard mccohen. and the chairman of the subcommittee that oversees it, aiken of missouri both got maxed out contributions from the maker of it, general dynamics. by the way if you were looking for any better example of the military industrial complex, take a look at general dynamics a company that spend millions on campaign triccontributions, and looked at their board of directors the other day and of the ten board of directors five former admirals, former
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generals, top pentagon officials, the revolving door from the pentagon and the military to the defense establishment helping to keep those defense dollars flowing. >> michael, i've been looking forward getting your report on this for a very long time. thanks a lot. so i want to know if the civility trend is going to last in politics. but i know someone in politics picked a bad time to debut the phrase kiss my butt in making his latest political point. today's mr. classy pants award coming up. >> ( baby crying ) >> grandfather: our first grandson. >> father: he sees you. >> ( "imagine" by john lennon playing ) >> ( laughing softly ) >> ( woman speaking korean ) >> ( child speaking korean ) >> ( children chattering ) >> dwight d. eisenhower:
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honor of the birthday of martin luther king jr. the news gods decided to remind us of the importance of this holiday. >> they're special interests. end of story. i'm not going to be held hostage by any special interests. if they want, they can look in my family picture. my son happens to be black. so they can do whatever they'd like about it. but the fact is there are only so many hours in day, so many days in a week and so much you can do. >> what is your response to them saying it's more than one instance but rather a pattern. >> tell them to kiss my butt. you know, this is not about, if they want to play the race card, come to dinner and my son will talk to them. >> governor paul la page of maine. talking about the naacp. to his credit, the family picture to which governor lapage of maine refers to includes a young man who is a jamaican immigrant who was informally adopted as a teenager by the
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family after the young man's father was a caddy for mr. lapage on a golf trip to jamaica. he did attend a king holiday breakfast in waterville, maine today where he used to be the mayor and has agreed to meet with the naacp at a later date but today at least whoever it is at the naacp apparently can still kiss governor lapage butt. in the mecklenburg school district in north carolina kids had to go to school today to make up a snow day despite the holiday. some parents held their kids out in protest. the naacp organized a march. you may also have read reports about a colorado radio station owner who four times a day is playing an anti-martin luther king editorial on his radio station. the editorial accuses dr. king of being a plastic god, sexual degenerate, and america-hating communist. the reason i am on camera reading you the quotes instead of showing you a picture or anything about the radio station
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is i'm sure that would satisfy the radio station way too much. he is in greeley, colorado if you are curious you can look him up. congressman john conyers is the man who first introduced legislation providing for a federal holiday to honor martin luther king. congress did that on april 8th, 1968, four days after dr. king was assassinated. the legislation creating the federal mlk holiday did not even get a vote in the house of representatives until 11 years after mr. conyers first introduced it. when it did come up for a vote it did not pass. it lost by five votes. the first time a king holiday bill passed the house was in august, 1983. 90 members of the house voted against it. when it passed the senate later that year 22 senators voted against it. despite the fact he originally opposed the idea of a king holiday president reagan did sign the bill establishing it to begin in 1986. 18 years after dr. king was killed. even after that date only 27 states and d.c. observed the holiday. in arizona a republican governor fulfilled a campaign promise by
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immediately rescinding the holiday once he was inaugurated. arizona didn't officially recognize it until 1993. new hampshire first adopted something they called civil rights day in place of the mlk holiday until 1999 when then governor current u.s. senator jean shaheen officially decided to change the name of the day in the state to martin luther king day. south carolina governor jim hodges made martin luther king jr. day a paid holiday for all state employees. in his state as of the year of 2000. south carolina the last state to make it so. prior to that south carolinians were given the option of honoring dr. king that day or honoring a confederate general. seriously? seriously. and it's not as uncommon as you might think. as many as five states at one time honored both confederate general robert e. lee whose birth date is january 19th and dr. king at the same time on the same third monday in january. virginia upped the ante by celebrating those two together along with confederate

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